Wednesday, October 22, 2008

An early question of pronunciation.

Issue- do you pronounce it 'iss-u' or 'ish-u'?

52 comments:

  1. Anonymous7:43 a.m.

    ish-u (assuming it's English pronunciation you're talking about...) :)

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  2. Indeed it was. Do 'mericans pronounce it differently?
    That's the way I pronounce it too, but Claire Byrne pronounces it 'iss-u' and it's driving me up the walls (yes it is stupid, but you know how once you notice something you can't un-notice it?)

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  3. That's the reason she's pronouncing it that way. To be noticed.

    She'll be saying 'controvisee' next.

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  4. Dear marmalade, say it ain't so!

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  5. Funny you say that - Lenihan was bugging me during the budget (apart of course from the actual text of the speech) by the way he kept referring to "in-i-SEE-a-tives" when pronouncing the word "initiatives" when I always say "in-ISH-atives".

    I agree on the issue, er, issue...there should also be a SH.

    Seems to me that the Lenihans and the Byrnes of this world might be trying a bit too hard to sound erudite?

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  6. Or, if you live in New Zealand, ush-you.

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  7. I say in-ish-atives too. Mind you, erudite I am not.
    Lk? Really? ush-you, aw noie.
    Another thing I've noticed lately is folk saying 'mill-on' and 'bill-on' for million and billion. It's quite odd. Mary Hannafin says it quite a lot. But I think that could just be a regional thing and not a put on.

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  8. Anonymous9:33 a.m.

    "ish-u" for me too.

    I had noticed the tendency of media types to use 'iss-u' though.

    The also refer to Bord Gosh! and Or-T-E!

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  9. I hear it as ish-u, but apparently we sound like ush-u.

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  10. Millon and billon are from the same stable as ve-hick-el. None of that dirty West Brit pronunciation.

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  11. Anonymous10:22 a.m.

    Does this affect tissue then?

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  12. Haw at Bord Gosh.
    A as Or is pretty common these days, Ord Feis instead of Ard Feis and Or-us On Uch-tor-on for Aras an Uchtarain. We fear the A, knowing full well it will trip us us up with its tricksy flatness and reveal us as the big muckers we really are.
    I believe I will rechristen myself as FotMommyCot in keeping with my south side snubbery. Gimmie you're exempt as you're from 'over there' or the 'Norf Syde' as I will doubtless now call it.
    Wait Claire, wait! Sorry... Clore! Wait I wanna be in your cool gang.

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  13. Sheepie that is a most excellent point. What is the Ish-ue with tish-ue? If I sneeze with it be a-tiss-ue? Wither the germular whoosh?

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  14. Iss-u and tiss-u are pretty bad in terms of affectation, alright.

    There's definitely lots of those RTE ones that get to me, but I can't think of the big one. I must have blocked it out.

    This is regional, maybe, but I really hate when people say 'click' instead of clique. And 'clicky'. Arg!

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  15. You're absolutely right, coven is much better.

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  16. Sorry Jo, I meant 'Yar obsulutely right!'

    I used to pronounce cacophony 'ca-ca-fony.' (I sweor to mormolade. The shome of it, the very shome.) Don't even bother asking me how I pronounced 'Ennui' think of a race horse and bare your teeth. I went to school too.

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  17. Anonymous10:56 a.m.

    what about "lurry" for lorry
    "chick" for chic
    "crips" for crisps

    Oh so many! I just know I'm going to spend the day thinking about this ishu

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  18. Anonymous10:59 a.m.

    Chimbley, Hostible and Cousint go with crips at the other end of the spectrum.

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  19. Package de crips! Chimbley! Oh it's like 1990 all over again.

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  20. Anonymous11:34 a.m.

    And don't forget Brokli and Bananats and Podatoes!

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  21. Podatoes distant cousint to tomadoes.

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  22. There are popular British pronunciations here in Canada such as "shed-ule" for schedule.
    I take it as a way to distinguish themselves from their neighbours to the south.

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  23. Anonymous2:30 p.m.

    ish-u of course - but worryingly I know a woman who pronounces Minute - "min-yit"

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  24. Anonymous2:46 p.m.

    ish-u!? ess-u? Gesundheit!!

    here, have a tissue...

    As an American what I find odd/endearing/crazy-making about Beloved's Belfast accent is when a syllable is added to a single syllable word such as "fil-um" for film and "Jo-EL" for Billy Joel.

    I'm not one to talk though. Thanks to Beloved's pointing it out, I've become aware of how I drop in far too many "awesomes" during conversation, giving me away as the California beach babe I am.

    Like... language and accents are awesome!

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  25. Anonymous2:52 p.m.

    Most 'murkans I know say ish-u. My mom, who is southern to her very marrow, says "srimp" instead of "shrimp" and "srub" instead of "shrub." I never figured that one out, if it's a particularly southern thing or if it's just one of her idiosyncrasies.

    My mom-in-law says "warsh" instead of "wash," including in "Warshington, D.C." That will drive you right up a wall and down the other side.

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  26. I'll warsh my awesome hands in a min-yit. Ykes, it's a veritable tongue twister.
    I know a gal who says Flor-ee-da and coo-ba for cuba, which I naturally pronounce 'que-bah' hmmm, I say sked-ual for schedule. Bah, I'm a honkey tonk country person for sure.

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  27. Anonymous4:01 p.m.

    Now if you're remotely Spanish or Latino/a, it makes sense to say Flo-ree-da or Coo-ba.

    If you're from Kentucky, you're more likely to call the former "Florr-da" and the latter "Kuh-yew-ba." We can always find a way to omit and add vowels.

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  28. Playwright George Bernard Shaw was fond of pointing out that the word, 'ghoti,' could just as well be pronounced, 'fish,' if you followed common pronunciation: 'gh,' as in, 'tough,' 'o,' as in, 'women,' and 'ti,' as in 'nation.

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  29. It must take so long saying everything though Grims. Although I must admit a terrible fondness for sing song accents.

    Docky, ever try explaining why Sow, bough, cough and bow sound odd to a Spaniard? It takes many rums.

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  30. Anonymous4:28 p.m.

    That's funny, James! I always learn something new form your comments.

    If somebody were to say tiss-u to me, I'm afraid I'd have to say "Tiss you, yourself you ill-mannered goat-doer! Why don't you wipe you nose, eh? Get yourself a fucking tissue, numbnuts"

    You can't let people walk all over you.

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  31. You can if you've paid for it!

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  32. Anonymous4:40 p.m.

    ish oooh as in tish oooh

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  33. Mr. M insists on saying Qwah-bec
    instead of the correct Keh-bec for Quebec.
    It's important to the Francophones.

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  34. If you think that's bad I'm going to INSIST you do that hilarious Minnesota accent every chance I get.

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  35. Ishu is easier for me as there is the faintest lispth.

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  36. Hey Medbh, I am never sure about schedule. It can come out of my mouth as sked-ule or shed-dule or my personal favourite (only cause we coined it in the office- our lives are ruled by the things) - sked-dool-lee.

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  37. FMC, doing the accent requires that I contort my face into too many wrinkle-promoting expressions. No wonder Principal Victoria looks like shit.

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  38. Hah, you'll do it, there will be rum involved.

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    I agree that irresponsible breeding is a big source of pet overpopulation but instead of going after people who want a specific breed why don't they focus on licensing breeders as so to limit those who, having shelled out a pretty penny for a purebreed, decide to have a few litters to make some money. I bet that many of those unfortunate dogs that end up in shelters come as leftovers from casual breeders.

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