I'm sure at this stage everyone has read of the poor nine year old child in Brazil who not only endured sexual abuse, but rape, allegedly at the hands of her step father. This poor little girl was also impregnated with twins.
If this is new to you, the story can be read here.
Of course people are up in arms over the reaction of the Catholic Church.
"The Archbishop of Olinda and Recife, Jose Cardoso Sobrinho, told Brazil's TV Globo that the law of God was above any human law.
He said the excommunication would not apply to the child because of her age, but would affect all those who ensured the abortion was carried out. "
Many people are outraged that he would take this line, wondering aloud why those who showed realistic compassion to a child victim should be threatened with ex-communication, but nothing was said about the rapist or those who would rape children.
Well, I'd like to say I am surprised but I am not. This is my church we're talking about here, born Catholic and raised until early teen Catholic, I understand their squawks, this is their line, and pretending it isn't ain't going to cut it.
Here's how it breaks down,
Sex= for procreation. Only.
Man= sacred sperm carrier.
Woman= vessel,
baybee = of greater value than woman, 'gift' from god' person of more rights than vessel.
impregnantion= act of god, 'gift'.
Age= Irrelevant.
Consent= irrelevant once baybee is on board.
Personal sovereignty= utterly irrelevant once baybee on board.
Compassion= irrelevant.
This is it, this is what it boils down to. Celibate men can hold the party line because they will never have to think about anything other than the party line. It matters not that this child was physically attacked and forcibly impregnated against her will, or that physically she is too immature to carry safely to term twins in her tiny body, it matter only about the baybees see? God's gift to us all.
Naturally I reject this notion, even as I reject the church I was baptised into against my will. I reject its teachings and condemn them for their backward views and disregard for a child's true wellbeing. But I also recognise there there is no moral ambiguity at play here, people should not be shocked or outraged by what they have said. This is it, this is what they do. This is what they think. No smoke, no mirrors, no holy hosannas.
The CC is an outdated male centric bastion of dogma and hierarchy. If it's your club so be it, but be aware of your club rules. They are written for all to see.
Does anyone know if the vatican has released a statement of support for the Arch-bishop? This is truely anachronistic behaviour from the church.
ReplyDeleteThe CC is an outdated male centric bastion of dogma and hierarchy. If it's your club so be it, but be aware of your club rules. They are written for all to see.
ReplyDeleteVery true.
This is standard CC belief Sheepie, abortion wrong in ALL cases. It's 'murder'.
ReplyDeleteAhhh...the church...ruining ANOTHER life, for the sake of a bronze age myth.
ReplyDeleteWhen will people wake up?
Yeah, but you'd think they'd still tone-down their response a wee bit - I mean this is very over the top, even for the RCC.
ReplyDeleteNot too long ago in this country that child would have been locked in a Catholic home and made to slave for her sin, and to save 'decent' men from the temptation she would pose them. The babies would have been taken off her, presuming she and they survived, and they might have been adopted/fostered out or kept in an orphanage until age 16 when they would have been let out as indentured servants - frequently abused physically and sexually by the people who took them in as cheap labour. They had to suffer for their mother's sin, after all.
ReplyDeleteWe're not talking too long ago, four decades. And remember the Catholic religious orders made money off all of this, real money, and acquired land and considerable assets.
It's no different to your average cult - fuck people up in the head, control them, make money and acquire power from that control.
Shocking story. When the child is clearly a minor, was raped, in danger of her own life --- it's a no-brainer. Sometimes I think the CC say these "controversial" things for publicity. Will be interesting to read the Irish CC reaction to this ...
ReplyDeleteRead that last night on the BBC website. Shocking. You'd have to think (hope) that most of his flock would not agree with his stance.
ReplyDeleteYou'd also hope that someone would see fit to lock him in the same cell as the rapist for a few months and see if his opinion was still the same. If it was you'd send him back and have a couple of melons forced UP his Jap's eye.
I think that's reasonable.
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ReplyDeleteI believe the CC mean every word they say, I believe they genuinely put more value on a fetus than on the life of a mother, regardless of age, mental or physical capcity. I believe people need to see clearly how much value the CC place on women and children and how willing they are to shit all over people to forward their agenda.
ReplyDeleteSurely this is a blessing in disguise no?
ReplyDeleteI'd love to be excommunicated.
I don't want to murder or rape anyone but that wouldn't work anyway, but saving childrens lives seems to do the trick so i might try to do that instead.
On a more serious note, how do you go about getting ex-communicated?
Morgor - I think Doc James had a link on a post last year about an opt-out registration with the CC?
ReplyDeleteNope, wasn't me as far as I can remember. must be another blog.
ReplyDeleteHmm, I think I rememner seeing a link for that somewhere too. I wouldn't worry Morgor, it's easy enough not to participate in the CC, no mass, no tithes, no confessions, no baptisms and absolutely NO holy communions of future children. Course in this country you're held at the mercy of the educational system then.
ReplyDeleteGood post, fmc.
ReplyDeleteI really hope this case is one of those that breaks through all the dogma to people's consciences and conciousnesses that they begin to see the church fro what it is. A money-spinner operated by mass fear and control.
It's a slow moving glaciar, Sam, each generation seems to see a bit more of the shiny gloss melt away, unfortunately not enough for my time.
ReplyDeleteive just heard about it on the news today. That is so sad. What i really dont get is, if in Brazil an abortion is legal if the vicitm has been raped, why is this an exception?
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You've nailed it, FMC.
ReplyDeleteThe CC offers a gross violation of human rights in their wonky interpretation of what should have happened to that poor child.
They'd rather see her die in childbirth, because the only good women to them are either knocked up or dead.
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