Well, the Nanny has spoken.
Tescos are going to have to start building. Seriously what tosh. Why don't they implement the blasted laws they already have in place before they start adding more to them. And why should an off-license have to close at 10? Why can't I buy a bottle of wine at 10:30? Who does this benefit?
Fucking with my ability to buy alcohol, I am AGAINST that!
Tch. Making alcohol harder to get won't change attitudes toward alcohol. In fact, if you make it a taboo, I'm sure it'll only make it worse. We tried that over here, and it was a DISASTER.
ReplyDeleteNanny state is right.
It's the usual knee jerk lazy thinking. When I lived in Spain you could grab a drink in any little cafe or stall you liked. It was cheap and it was plentiful, but you hardly ever saw local youth falling about all over the place. All this does it aggravate the legitimate drinker, the underage will still find ways around it.
ReplyDeleteSundays in Lewis you can't buy anything far less alcohol. Taxi drivers have a great wee gig going though where, on a Sunday they'll call in to one of the hotels for a bottle and then drive it to their customer out in the country. It must be the most expensive way of getting a drink but people thirsty enough will pay for this. For real.
ReplyDeleteLaws will not change a drinking culture as ingrained as that nor will they in Ireland. It'll just make the stories sadder and more desperate.
The product of a drinking culture I've abused alcohol plenty myself. I don't blame the pub, the offie or anyone else. In a free society, if I want to make an arse of myself I should be free to do it, I firmly believe that.
Damn right.
ReplyDeleteIn parts of the US the anti-drink Nazis have made it so difficult that everyone must show an ID to buy alcohol.
ReplyDeleteI'm age 67. I have to show an ID.
In fact, as I don't drive I had to get a special state “ID for non-drivers” to show and prove myself old enough when I buy drink.
I hope there will be reciprocity so my US card will be accepted in Dublin.
I have just posted a blog about this.
ReplyDeleteGreat minds and all that.....
I would probably be arrested for being obnoxious if someone asked me for ID at 67, but I feel it would be worth it. That's ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteThis country is going to the dogs. A few weeks ago in Tesco, sunday morning I bought some groceries including a bottle of wine, but because is was ten minutes before the 'allowed buying of alcohol time' the cashier wouldn't let me have it. Fine no problem, it wasn't her fault. But the law is an ass. And now they're trying to make it a fucking mule.
AC saw that, posted.
Last spring, I subjected myself to a grueling schedule: Hop on the Luas at 9, national archives 10 to 5, then shuffle over to the national library, open till 9pm Monday to Wednesday. And then I had to take the Luas back out to Tallaght, often arriving just at 10 or after. If I hadn't been able to grab a cup of soup and a bottle of wine (dinner of champions) from Tesco on the way back to the apartment on Wednesday nights, I might well have slit my throat by the second week.
ReplyDeleteIt's fucking ridiculous Grims, if they want to fuck with teenagers, as someone said, make THEM carry ID. What the hell difference does it make to a teenager what time the offy closes at? The little bastards do all their drinking in the evening anyway.
ReplyDeleteI'm seriously outraged. I also could be hungry. I'm hungry and angry, I'm hangry.
I was carded all the time in the U.S. and it drove me batty. People would say to take it as a compliment. Fuck that. It's hectoring and insulting. Why should I have to carry id anyway everytime I leave the house?
ReplyDeleteUp here in Canada, the drinking age is 19 and I've never been carded. The way it should be!
Damn right. Unless you look like a teenager you shouldn't be treated like one.
ReplyDeleteAnd once again the government introduces ridiculous legislation to avoid actually dealing with the heart of the problem. Short-sighted much Mr Lenihan ?
ReplyDeleteNow Betty, you know we-the public- can't be trusted an inch to know what's good for us.
ReplyDeleteFatmammy, sorry to rub it in but there are some slightly more liberal laws where I live - see here
ReplyDeleteThat was the cruelest link I've ever followed. Downright cruel. I think I can actually feel tears.
ReplyDeleteIt's kind of reverse legislation really, it's just going to make people buy smarter and angrier.
ReplyDeleteWhat are your laws regarding buying of alcohol? Our archaic alcohol-buying laws got an overhaul sometime in the last ten years and we can generally get our hands on the stuff twenty-four hours a day.
They did lower the drinking age from 20 to 18 which has been a bit of a disaster, though. Pissed yoofs. Highly unpleasant.
It's 18 here too, but the yoofs falling about pissed can range from 14 to way up.
ReplyDeleteYou can buy it in super markets and off licenses, up until whenever those places close, but that's what they're trying to change. They want the offys to close at 10.
I wish they would just take alcohol of that shitty pedestal it is on and stop making such a bit deal out of it. I mean it is not an illegal substance; it is not as potent or as detrimental as drugs. We have all got drunk at some stage, in fact as I type I don’t feel to hot and fresh but, I’m not going to kill anybody or drive or terrorise my neighbours and since Newbie is lying face down in a pool of his own dribble on the kitchen table I doubt (but I’ll work on it) I’m going to have unprotected sex. These seem to be the main reasons for tightening alcohol regulation so perhaps they should tackle these issues instead of using alcohol as a scapegoat. It seems to me the government will just spout shite about new alcohol laws when asked about addressing any of the above issues. Killing four birds with one stone so to speak. You have to admire their ingenuity though, think of the fiscal savings. Ye know what that means, pay increases all round for the boys at the top.
ReplyDeleteNonny
It's a sop to middle-class whataboutthe... types, the types who vote and make politicians anxious. Many places will choose to close the entire premises at 10pm rather than go through the cost of intalling segregated zones for alcohol. Result: fewer shops open after 10pm and nipping out in the evening for milk/bread/marmalade/coffee for breaskfast will no longer be possible.
ReplyDeleteThink our offies close around 11, but I've a great wee pub close-by that serves carryouts till 3 in the morning, gawd bless'em.
ReplyDeleteIt's a load of nanny crap. They just decide things arbitrarily as far as I can see and we're all just supposed to doff our caps and go 'yesssir, thanks for telling us what to do.'
ReplyDeleteBig Brother is coming, I think Orwell’s prophesy is coming true. Sweet Jesus hold me!
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