Tuesday, January 29, 2008

Lipotrim, still crap, still expensive, still ridiculous.

If you're interested in previous warblings about lipotrim feel free to look here and here
Right. You'd imagine most folk would get that I'm against Lipotrim and why, but it appears not. So, once more into the breech dear chumlies.
I got an email over the weekend from an outraged reader and Lipotrim user castigating me for my mocking ways and my dislike of ALL fad diets including the current fad Lipotrim. I won't post her mail because it was a private email and as angry as she was she wasn't offensive ( note to anyone, if you do send me offensive mail I will post it, I won't be offended, but you will make me laugh).
Now this lady was seething. She seemed to be of the opinion I was single handedly scaring people off Lipotrim and thus forcing them to forgo their life changing metamorphosis from fat caterpillar to Monarch Butterfly. She said I had no call to be so snippy about people trying to lose weight and it was obviously easy from me to be snide but not easy for others to lose weight.
Erm, right. I don't know what's easy for me right at this moment, but I'm going to assume she thinks I'm one of those charmed people who never have to work at anything and everything is easy peasy lemon squeezy.
Listen up lady and caterpillars, I think it's terrific if you want to lose weight. I think it's super terrific if anyone wants to lose weight. If you came here asking me about anything and I thought I could be of service to you I'd be the first one applauding your efforts to whatever it was you were planning to do. I'm ALL for folk doing things.
My entire objection to Lipotrim is that it is a truly terrible thing to do to your body. I think people who latch on to Lipotrim as the great white hope are being conned.
For people who had not come across Lipotrim basically it's a total food replacement diet. Initially it was designed for MORBIDLY OBESE people who needed to lose weight fast and dramatically to improve their health and perhaps to stop them from dying. Now it is used by fat housewives the world over as a quick fix for weight that has accumulated over a number of years through poor eating habits, over reliance on sugar and carb heavy food and little or no exercise.
Lipotrim is expensive and totally unsustainable. And because I don't like to talk out my arse ALL the time, I took a quick gander over through the Lipotrim support blogs this damp and soggy morning.
What I discovered confirms what I long suspected.
One after another, women are logging on, talking about the shakes, the grumpiness, the fact that they can no longer even sit down and have a meal with their family, or have a slice of toast or god forbid! a piece of fruit. On top of all this 'self-sacrifice' women are suffering from headaches and mysterious aches and pain, lack of energy and terror of the dreaded weekly weigh in and wondering why?
Er, here's a thought. Maybe you're feeling unwell and exhausted and depressed because you're not eating anything.
Another thing that made me laugh, but not in a happy way, more like in a tired cynical way, was the amount of women who are on their second and third and even fourth round of this stupid bloody nonsense. One after another the posts went as follows.
'Hi girls, this is my second/third time on this brilliant diet, I lot 900 stone last time in only three months!! LOL. but the weight just crept back on over the winter, plan to starve myself again now, whoo hoo can't wait until I'm in ketosis!! I plan to loose (sic) 1000 stone this time round!! Just keep going girls this diet REALLY WORKKS!! Go LIPOTRIM!!!!'
Right, it's clearly working brilliantly.
As I've said in every other diet related post I've ever done, I am against diets. But I am particularly against diets that involve total food replacement, because unless you are a complete dunce and a nit wit, it must surely dawn on a person that food, actual to goodness food, is an essential part of day to day living. Restricting all food is folly, messes up your metabolism and panics the shit out of your fat cells who will be mightily prepared for such a occurrence happening again by storing even more fat in case of famine.
Yeah you'll lose loads of weight, same was as anyone who starves them selves lose loads of weight, but unless you an Olsen you cannot live your entire life in a state of permanent starvation. Plus if you never understand why you put all the weight on in the first place you're doomed to repeat your previous mistakes.
Stable weight requires stable eating habits. We in the west are provided with every sort of food imaginable, but just because it is at our fingertips does not mean we need to eat it. People gambling on the quick fix only to find it's next to impossible to sustain eventually give up and grow large with food again because they have never addressed the ACTUAL cause of their weight gain. People who actively change their diets, reduce their intake of highly processed foods and empty calories and recognise trigger foods and alter how and what they eat stand more chance of losing weight-over a period of time- and keeping it off. Far better, but so much more effort than people who rush helter skelter from one fad to the next.
And because it bears repeating, becoming fat or obese or even morbidly obese does not happen over night, neither does losing weight.

If you want to come over here and give out to me for disabusing tripe like Lipotrim and Slim Fast and The Cabbage Soup diet and The Only Eat Tiny Pebbles diet and Grapefruit juice diets, come ahead, feel free. I"m a big girl I can take it.
But I will point out one thing, and this is the same thing I pointed out to the lady in question. I don't go to Lipotrim blogs-of which there are legion- and lay into struggling dieters, mocking their efforts and sneering at the hopeless course of action they are about to embark on. I reserve the right to be mocking and sneering of whatever the hell I like on my own blog, and if what I say irks the ever loving shit out of you well, you're free to NOT read it, disregard it, roll your eyes skyward, run off to a Lipotrim blog and talk to your 'girls' ( nothing annoys the shit out of me more than grown women referring to each other a girls, but hey, I don't go to other sites and rant about that either)
I don't really care what you do. But if you want to lose weight safely and with some hope of keeping it off, it might just be time to be less outraged and more aware that diets like Lipotrim are big business for its makers because they already know that you'll never win with it, and bless you, you're putting the makers of Lipotrim's kids through college.

Lipotrim! I'm still against it!



Anonymous nonny said...

I am not against diets. Never heard of that shit before but obviously it could not be good, like slim fast, muscle enhancers, body building steroids etc, the additives and chemicals alone would be detrimental enough without the weight loss side effects. Everybody knows that eating a well balanced diet plus exercise is paramount but most people are looking for a quick fix, they are desperate whereas if they opted for the likes of Weight Watchers, it may take longer but the would appreciate the importance of eating the right foods. So how do you convince people? You need to be tactful, I would hate, hate, hate to hurt anybodies feelings. I was in Farringtons Christmas week, there I was vomiting into a hand basin (the toilets where full) anyway two girls where there yapping about what I gather was one of their mates and how fat she was and how if she had have just bought a pair of trousers one size bigger she may not have looked so bad. They laughed about how she mashes herself into clothes a size smaller to assure herself she is not getting fatter. They left and the girl they referred to as enormous emerged from a cubicle, mortified with tears streaming down her face. What could anybody say to her? I wished I had have vomited on them. I’d say she had a miserable Christmas. I’d also say she would have jumped on a quick fix chemical cocktail remedy. Yep she was a big girl, but everybody has their vices, something they have to struggle with, it is a grave misfortune that some people battle with food as the effects of misuse are clearly visible ye know. Like imaging if you where told you could never drink again or go without something that really comforts you. I eat about 10 bars of chocolate a day, I swear to God I would kill myself if I didn’t have them, I have had 3 already. I don’t blame desperate men and women, I blame manufacturers and drug companies peddling this shite to people, just like all them nicotine tablets, they are taking advantage of weak, vulnerable people for nothing else but financial gain. So maybe send a letter to the manufacturer of that shit.

11:29 a.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Meh, I don't drink all day or every day or indeed at the moment at all.
And that girl needs to get new friends. And possibly jeans that fit her.

11:37 a.m.  
Blogger Lou said...

I put on a stone in the last year (moving from Singapore to London during creme egg season was a TERRIBLE idea) and over the summer when there was a family wedding in Spain I tried to starve myself back down so I wouldn't look bad in the photos. It didn't work, and I was cranky and miserable for two weeks.

I think even though I was unhappy about the way I looked I wasn't ready to make an actual commitment to getting healthy/slim again, and I wasn't until September/October that I was. I've lost about a pound a week since then and I'm nearly back to the way I was. But it's hard work. And there isn't really a quick fix. I think we've become such a 'more, now, again' society that we expect quick results with everything, but our bodies haven't changed in thousands of years, and they do need to be treated with respect. Messing around with fad diets and chemicals is NOT treating your body with respect.

I think I am against the word diet, eating right and exercising is a lifestyle - a long-term choice, not just something to adopt short-term until that dress/top/skirt fits...

11:38 a.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Those bloody cream eggs, I don't like chocolate but I life them from time to time.
No, my biggest vice is cheese, cheese and anything salty. But since I have had cheese sing some time in december you can only imagine my mental state.

11:41 a.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Sing? I meant since, you must excuse me I am cheese deprived.

11:42 a.m.  
Anonymous nonny said...

Miss Cat don’t bother booking a room in Hell, I have the whole west wing booked, feel free to avail of a room there. Keep the red shoes to hand.

11:46 a.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Oh please, like Satan isn't only keeping the throne warm for me.

11:49 a.m.  
Anonymous sheepworrier said...

Its pretty much the same problem with everything - people no longer consider themselves to be accountable for their own actions. Too fat? Too skinny? Too poor? Fuggit, don't look at the cause of your issue - just get a quick fix and if it doesn't work out, blame someone else.

11:53 a.m.  
Blogger Lou said...

Discovered St. Agur cheese over Christmas. Mmmmmmmmyyy Godddddd....

I think the only thing I can't give up is tea. Haven't had alcohol in three weeks, but haven't had tea for two days and am getting fed up of the insomnia and splitting headaches...

11:54 a.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

I understand the attraction of quick fix Sheepie, I really do, unfortunately so do marketing companies and advertisers and it's hard to break people out of the choke hold.
Lou I'm drinking tea right this second, my deepest sympathies. I'm with you on the hooch though I have one month left before I can sample a delicious rum. One WHOLE month. Eep.

12:02 p.m.  
Anonymous Shebah said...

Jeez Nonny, your post shocked me. Are you saying you are bulimic? You vomit into basins in public loos? On the one hand you are saying everyone knows about a well balanced diet and then in the next sentence you say you are binging on 10 bars of chocolate.This is a helluva lot of calories and would make anyone overweight. Regular vomiting wrecks your teeth and damages your spleen, so it would be adviseable to seek medical help.

12:02 p.m.  
Blogger Conan Drumm said...

There is a very large Chemists (as we used to call them) not so far away and it has enormous picture windows and one of its ENORMOUS picture windows is given over entirely to LIPOTRIM and even if you avoided that and went in to buy some unguent or other you will next be assailed inside the shop door by an ENORMOUS chart which sets out raise anxiety about your BMI INDEX. Need I say the proprietors are not poor.

12:13 p.m.  
Anonymous nonny said...

No, no, no, I am not bulimic, I only vomited because I had just got out of hospital and I drank one pint, I said ONE pint of Guinness too quickly. I eat really healthy and am very fit. Fuck that I work 15 hour days I savour the food I eat, I’m hardly gonna vomit it back up. The only bad dietary habit I have is Chocolate I eat a shit load of it and no it does not make me fat.

Now listen Miss Cat about Hell, I hear Elvis, Jim Morison and Johnny Cash are in constant competition so the music awesome. I also heard that Jim ‘puts out’ to any female takers. Sex before marriage is openly encourages and there is house wine a plenty. Some people even say it rains coke, if you are into that kinda thing. Oooh I can’t wait, it is gonna be just swell!

12:26 p.m.  
Anonymous sheepworrier said...

Nonny: They're all bad impersonators who can't sing properly, Jim is awful in the sack, the sex before marriage gives you genital warts, the house wine has been sitting out for too long and is luke-warm, and the coke is from the same batch Katy French had.

Still, its better than Cork, eh?

12:38 p.m.  
Anonymous Annie said...

I hate faddy diets and 'miracle' pills with a passion. They don't work and if they do, you'll pile back on every single pound and more as soon as you go back to a normal existance. Moderation is the key as my mammy has always said.

If only I could take her advice, I have feck all willpower.

12:42 p.m.  
Blogger daisy mae said...

i was an intern at a physician's office for a year or so, and the common treatment he prescribed was to "eat better, start exercising, and drink water". of course that is simply a summation, he took the time to go through things with people, and help them sort out what was best for them. but the common response? "hahahaha. that's so much WORK! isn't there a prescription you could give me?"

in other news, i just got a call from J, and i'm forbidden to drive today - which means no gym, and no 3 mile run... no driving as there's a sheet of glare ice over the entire town, with more on the way, and he's got the car with actual traction, whereas i've the one with bald tires. it *must* count as a proper excuse! and don't tell me to run outside - it's -20F.

2:10 p.m.  
Anonymous nonny said...

Well sheepy guess you'll just have to go to Haven with all them other fairy's eh? Picture it, sitting around in a tranquil feathery setting, sipping mineral water and talking about how hilarious it was when poor St Peter forgot to lock his pearly gate Oh ho ho how you laugh most heatedly at that one. You’ll be sat there holding onto each other for balance because the party Freddy M and me are having in Hell will be raising roof and causing Haven to shake to its crumbly foundations, and we’ll be wrecking it up in Hell baby, we’ll show you the real Nirvana.

Oh and I quite like Cork, Bantry in particular.

2:16 p.m.  
Blogger daisy mae said...

wasn't it marilyn manson who said "who wants to go to heaven with all those fucking angels?"

no heaven, no hell. c'mon people, when you're dead - you're just dead.

2:28 p.m.  
Blogger Lou said...

Another quick fix...


I'm going to the gym after work. Not quick, but definitely a fix...

2:50 p.m.  
Blogger Andraste said...

I very much object to the idea that Johnny Cash is anywhere near hell. If I believed in any of that mumbo jumbo at all, I'd say Johnny's been reincarnated into his beloved southern earth, and he's right now feeding the root system of some amazing old growth trees or a crop of something healthy and delicious. I won't have a bad word said about Johnny.

Which leads nicely into the diet thing.

Fuck yeah, Cat. Once again, you nailed it. This woman who wrote to you - clearly has an axe to grind that has nothing to do with what you wrote. Sounds like she's lashing out because she doesn't have the self discipline to break a sweat doing exercise or steaming some damn broccoli, and thinks she needs these fads...and is envious of you because you have enough self discipline to maintain a healthy lifestyle without giving your hard earned scratch to these LIPOTRIM frauds.

2:50 p.m.  
Anonymous sheepworrier said...

Very true daisy. My thetan will let me live on forever, so im not too bothered...


2:51 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where do you start on this? Sell the quick fix 'cos that's what people want. Treat the problem not the cause. Promise the earth but guarantee nothing. Same common strands running through just about every diet. They sell because people don't want to or don't know how to eat healthily. I can't understand the latter but apparently people are so thick that they don't know what types of food in excess are bad for your weight. It's gone so far that the only way to fix the problem will be to go back to schools and ensure kids know how to make a nutritious healthy meal from real ingredients. They can then show their parents or come home with a list of ingredients and instructions.

Of course that won't happen and the health service (UK or ROI) will get worse and worse as the strains of poor diet and exercise moves up the age demographic.

4:05 p.m.  
Blogger Medbh said...

I too am a cheese and salty snacks type, FMC. I don't know how you're doing it, because I couldn't live in a world without cheese.
I hope you told that woman who emailed you to fuck off. You can say whatever you like on your blog. Tall her to start ilovelipitor.blogspot.com and peddle her bullshit there.

4:26 p.m.  
Blogger Kim Ayres said...


4:42 p.m.  
Blogger aquaasho said...

Hi FMC. I kinda have the same attitude to this as I do to the Christine Gallagher thing i.e. fools and their money. If people wanna beleve this crap (i.e. are really quite stupid) then they really ought to be left to it. People get rich out of other people's misery and stupidity and that seems to be the way it is. I don't really mean to be "mocking and sneering" I just think if grown ups of sound mind are ripped off, then it's their own fault.

5:12 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Evening ladies and gentle folk, I and my rancid aching corpse are just back from a monster session in the gym, I'll post it Satdee, but we swam oh yes, and we hates it. Oh yes. We swallowed lots of water oh yes, lots and lots of water went up our noses and down the back of our throat, we totes hates it and we swims badly. We calls it floundering.

Aisling, while a goodly part of me agrees, an even goodlier part of me thinks that marketing companies are the devil and it's IS up to us to poke holes in their campaigns, by ridiculing them and their bollocky claims if necessary.
I didn't tell her to fuck off, but I did challenge the reason why she was so angry with me, and I have heard nowt back.
Fraudy types only get away with their fraudy crap because they go unchallenged and if boarding school taught me anything it is that hockey on cold mornings is torture and lying fuckwits must be stood up to.

5:56 p.m.  
Anonymous Sam, Problemchildbride said...

And yet, and yet, outrage can be great calorie-burner.

6:10 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

God help me if they ever find out where I am, I can see hordes of Lipotrim, psychics and reiki users charging up the road, baying for my blood.

6:18 p.m.  
Blogger Medbh said...

Congrats on your nomination, FMC. I'm sure there are many more to follow.


7:28 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Thanks dahling, how odd to be in pop culture. I'm not sure mine is a pop culture blog, but nice to be considered all the same. And yay for you too.

8:09 p.m.  
Anonymous jen said...

I've never heard of this evil Lipotrim stuff before but it sounds awful. Ooooh - the way marketing companies exploit the weak and vulnerable makes me fizzing mad sometimes. Online 'support' groups, my backside - they sound more like pits of misery designed to help you fail. Then, of course, you'll need more of the product when you feel 'up to' dieting again. And so the cycle of misery continues...

There is no substitute for the basic maths of eat less crap, do more exercise if you want to lose weight. It may not be quick or fashionable but it works.

And, just to add another tuppence-worth, I'd always go for cheese/crisps over something sweet :-)

10:03 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

'And, just to add another tuppence-worth, I'd always go for cheese/crisps over something sweet :-)'
The chumlies who come to this blog are people of excellent taste I must say.

10:05 p.m.  
Anonymous laughykate said...

mmmmmm chips...saltly nibbly things....mmmmm. I have been known, when guests haven't yet arrived, to put them on top of the fridge and out of my reach so i don't clean them all up. 'Chip crumb, anyone? Like to lick the salt out of the bowl? One wasabi pea?'

Replacement food diets? Oh for fuck's sake. There's a lot of money to be made out of idiots.

12:39 a.m.  
Anonymous Sam, Problemchildbride said...

People, it seems, would rather open their wallets and pour their money down the loo rather than break sweat from time to time.

12:44 a.m.  
Anonymous Sam, Problemchildbride said...

And congratulations on the nomination, sweetheart! Expect more!

*Taps nose*


12:46 a.m.  
Blogger daisy mae said...

we just got back from the bookstore, where i had to force myself to put down a book (we were at yet another bookstore this morning and bought well on 10 books - and while you can never have too many books, it would have been just one book too many).

but the point! the book is called 'in defense of food: an eater's manifesto' by michael pollan, and it looks wonderful. (he also wrote the omnivore's dilemma).

it ties in with this whole conversation in that he feels what we eat now is focused on nutrients, not actual food, along with a whole host of insights into what we commonly call "food" these days.

on another topic, DAMN YOU ALL for mentioning chips/crisps. i haven't eaten one in months and started craving them - J and i are now getting ready to sit down to a movie with nachos, chips/crisps, and of course jelly beans. i'm sure to regret it as i'm dragging on the tredmill in the morning.

3:56 a.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Mmmsalty stuff. It's true an open bag of crisps are a danger. That's why I like Walkers 6 in one. Mini bags, you see. Of couse you can eat all six, but it's easier not to.
No regrets! everyone and I mean EVERYONE deserves a treat now and then. Personally I'm going to watch CSI on Friday while gobbling on a Tayto cheese and onion sammich. I"m going to slather two pieces of Brennans white (!) bread with butter, pour the crisp on and smooch them with the heel of my hand. It will be deeeeeeelicious. Disgusting and deeeelicious.

Sam, snarf. You are a one.

8:00 a.m.  
Anonymous AM in Belgium said...

Mmmm... Tayto sandwiches.

The ONE shop which sometimes sells them here is out. And none expected for another 2 weeks.

The monster multi-pack bag I brought back with me after New Year is all gone. I don't know where. I expect the dog ate them or something.

I guess Walkers will have to do instead :( They're just not the same, at all at all.

3:25 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

They're really not, plus you need Brennans sliced for that slightly skinny sogginess. MMmI"m starving

9:35 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I did the lipotrim diet for 6 week and lost nearly 2 stone i came off it two week ago and have stuck to a very harsh diet with small quantities! I have put on 6lb in 2 week! This diet is terrible because your body grabs hold of everything you eat even if you are living off salad its messed up my matabolism and has scared me to death it makes me scared to eat any thing with out me jumping on the scales to check how much weight i have put on. I wish i had never started this diet!

10:25 a.m.  
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lipotrim is evil

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