Monday, February 26, 2007


A question for the runners out there. I've been upping the training a little and am poodling at roughly five miles every other day, and an extended eight miles once a week.( not particularly fast, but steady pace) However my right knee is sore. I've rested it since last thursday, but I can still feel a twinge when I walk up or down stairs, and even in bed last night there was a definite dull ache. there seems to be a bit of a fluid build up over the cap too. Is this from running on concrete? And should I be wearing some kind of support?
Cheers in advance.


Blogger Dave said...

it's possible you are overpronating, in which case orthotic inserts and good shoes could help but that's just one example of where the problem is. Best to stop and get a physio to take a look, you could get away with a quick recovery, but if you keep running without sorting it out you could do serious damage.

4:02 p.m.  
Blogger Dave said...

"just one example of where the problem is" ... should really have been 'example of where the problem might be'

4:02 p.m.  
Blogger Kav said...

I would definitely stop until you get it checked. I did my shins in last year and it took me months to recover.

Oh, and they said it was partly from running on concrete, but also that my runners didn't give sufficient support. Apparently you should expect to pay around €100 for a decent pair of running runners.

4:06 p.m.  
Blogger The Hangar Queen said...

Quick question.Considering the amount of running you do how often do you buy new shoes? It's fucking insane with the price of them but they really are only good for a limited mileage.
I cycle a lot more than I run and I still get through a few pairs a year.
In the meantime get the knee looked at.They're tricky bastards and toughing it out now could cause serious long term aggro.

4:25 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Thanks I appreciate the advice and I do need new runners. These ones are on their last legs. It definitely feels swollen and like I say it in a 'band' over the top of my knee. I'd probably best get it checked out.
Thanks a lot.

4:25 p.m.  
Blogger The Hangar Queen said...

Damn...that was fast missus!

4:27 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

MIss Quenn, we crossed in the ether. I spen about 100 Euros on these Nike Airs about...ahem... two years ago. I'm starting to feel like a bit of a twit right this second. I need new runners don't I?

4:27 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Quenn- damn tuna can fingers- Miss Queen.

4:28 p.m.  
Blogger The Hangar Queen said...

Yup.:) I switch mine out (ASIC's GT2110's) every 500 miles or so.They go about $90 here and that's a sting but I'd rather have sound knees.I'll be needing them later you see.
See if you can have your gait analyzed.They do it for free where I buy my shoes and they point you towards the best shoe for your particular style of running.Not (to my surpris) the most expensive shoe in the place either.

4:34 p.m.  
Blogger John Mc said...

Defo stop until you have it checked. It's not a good sign this early in your training. Also ice and ibuprofen, an athletes best friend). You need to get the inflammation down. Also try and go to a Dr who treats athletes.

Re shoes, as Dev said, go to a shop that specifically gears towards runners, most will let you try on several pairs and even test them and they will analyse your pronation and recommend inserts. This made a big difference to me when I used to run.

You know at the end of the day, running hurts! Thats why I stick to the bike. I got sick of sore legs.

5:21 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

I don't mind being a bit sore-I expect that- what I do mind is getting an injury-as you say- this early into training. I will be dragging my ass to a sporting goods store tomorrow and investing in a decent pair of road worthy trainers.

5:31 p.m.  
Blogger finn said...

new shoes, ice, ibuprofen (aka Vitamin I), gait analysis -- all sound advice.

i also recommend sorbathane insoles for taking up extra shock (if you don't go w/orthotics). they're not cheap, but they're worth it. let me know if you'd like me to pick up a pair before i leave.

also consider glucosamine-chondroitin supplements. when i had knee pain years ago, i started taking them, and i got orthotics. something worked.

9:36 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Thanks darling, I will look into it all. It's rather pathetic to be collywobbled this early in training is it not?

9:48 p.m.  
Blogger finn said...

better now than 3 weeks before your marathon.

10:23 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

If that happened to me I would seriously cry for some time and curse very loudly-for about three weeks.
I figure with new shoes and a bit of rest off the concrete I should be back skippity bobbing along in a week or so. I made an appointment with my GP for Wednesday just to be on the safe side, But I don't reckon it's anything serious.

10:50 p.m.  
Blogger aquaasho said...

The same thing happened to me when I reached the stage of running about 9 miles as my first long run. Both my knees had pain right on the knee cap. I thought I had done really serious damage. A visit to a local physio sorted it out with some treatment but mostly excercises and was back running quite quickly. If you can find a physio who is also a runner, all the better.
The way it was explained to me was; the larger muscles in your legs are getting fitter but the cartilage(?) which moves the knee cap back into place every time you bend the knee is not as progressed and is put under pressure by the increase in weekly mileage. (There is a strap-type-thing you can get to support the knee cap but best if you see your GP or physio first).
I know it's easier said than done but if you can do most of your long runs on grass it will reduce those type of injuries. A circuit inside Marlay Park is about two miles and you can spend about half that loop on grass. There are also some great trails in the Dublin Mountains.
For the gait analysis try Amphibian King in Bray.
They are a shop that sells running shoes specifically and very little else so they know their stuff. I have tried all sorts of runners but absolutely love Asics especially Gel Kayanos.

8:35 a.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Cheers aquaasho, and thanks for the link to your blog the other day, it was most helpful- and a bit scary reading about how you felt after your first marathon.

9:24 a.m.  
Blogger Jagd Kunst said...

The support I use is a beer in one hand. One time I fractured my heel and I didn't go to the hospital because I couldn't convince anyone to take me. But once it went black, I got the gumption to start threatening people who rode in vehicles with death.

9:58 a.m.  
Anonymous jmae said...

eeek, injuries are no fun. in the meantime i would recommend swimming (i hate doing it, but it really helps recovery and is stress-free on the knees).

i would say a big, emphatic, NO! to running on the concrete, ever again. asphalt is your friend. as are trails, tracks, and football fields. golf courses also work in a pinch. the concrete will rip your legs apart and it's not worth it!


2:01 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

I know jmae, but I'm trying to prepare myself for Dublin City marathon-which is run on road as opposed to off. Still I will keep to training on grass as much as possible.
JK I think you and I would have a fine old time gallavanting about on a pub crawl. I once fell off a kerb one time, off my face, and didn't notice how much damage I'd done to my ankle, right up unti me and country gay drunkenly went to a 24 hour chemist-tittering wildly- and asking for a 'bandage'. The woman behind the counter took one look at my foot and said, 'Yes, well I think hospital might be better'.
And you know what? She was absolutely right, I had torn all the bloody ligaments in my foot and it was sawollen to twice it's normal size.

2:26 p.m.  
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