Monday, May 21, 2007

Tori Amos.

Okay, I give up, I tried, I tried some more, I listened to some people say I should try again but then I had to just say 'HOLD UP YO! FUK DAT SHEET.'
No more. I give in. I freely admit it. I just don't get Tori Amos. To me everyone of her songs sounds just like the one that went before it, tuneless warbling with piano. And frankly she makes my brow furrow. And I don't want any more wrinkles. So no, no to Tori. And also no to people who think she's the next musical christ or something.
No I say.
I'm going for a swim now.

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Blogger Medbh said...

I'm with you, FMC. I never saw the appeal and her fluttering pitched voice drives me batty.

2:37 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Huzzah! I was worried that it was just me as everyone else seems to think 'she's amazin'!'

2:59 p.m.  
Blogger Sam, Problem-Child-Bride said...

I was in a French class with a fellow once in Minnesota who declared he liked la musique alternative, par example Tori Amos. Since when did Tori Amos become alternative music?

I guess I'm not a fan because right now I can't think of any of her songs. I know I know them, they just aren't coming to mind and I can't be bothered to look any up. So not a fan then.

3:09 p.m.  
Blogger Andraste said...

God, she's awful, and so are all her imitators. Warbling, pretentious, 'sensitive' shite. Her music gives me the shits.

3:39 p.m.  
Blogger finn said...

i can't neg on a chick willing to suckle a pig. and i like her older albums.

how was your swim?

4:20 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Oh delightful, I forgot to bring my goggles, swallowed eight gallons of water and had the ear talked off me by a rather sweet old dear as I clung -gasping and trying not to retch- to the wall of the pool. It's her daughter's wedding on Thursday, I have all the details, ALL the details.
I must say I"m rather pleased with this Tori puzzlement, makes me feel right at home. If we were all in a beer garden right now, necking pints I'd probably start weeping.

4:55 p.m.  
Blogger Annie Rhiannon said...

I never got her either, and agree that "they all sound the same" — except for the song "Cornflake Girl" which I think is brilliant and I love with all my heart.

5:11 p.m.  
Blogger Flirty Something said...

Guessing your not a Norah jones fan either then?

5:12 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Annie, that's the only song of hers I don't mind. But for the life of me I can't warm to the rest. Or tell them apart.
Norah's very...she makes me sleepy. But I don't find her very offensive or anything, just sleepy.
Here, while I'm at it, I don't get Bjork either. shouty shouty girl. Words all over the place, squaks, squeaks, flibbirty gibbits. No, 'I would have to say, 'OI, BJORK! NAAAAAAOOOWWW.'
I wouldn't go across the road to see a concert of hers.

5:19 p.m.  
Blogger Sassy Sundry said...

Gah! She looks like Cher!

I really liked her for about a month in collge. Ever since I've been wondering why she doesn't take all of her money and invest in therapy... or at least some really fun drugs.

7:57 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

You know Sass, she does have a big of the old Cher going on in that photo. I do like Cher though, I love that she's 175 and still touring about the place on a very large motorbike. Plus she was in Moonstruck, and for that reason alone she can have any pass she likes.

8:08 p.m.  
Blogger Sassy Sundry said...

Oh, she's a fabulous actress, don't get me wrong. She's just really, really scary looking.

9:45 p.m.  
Anonymous Catherine O said...

I apologise in advance but I am a bit partial to "professional widow". Rest of her albums, despite my best attempts, didnt grab me. Best of luck with the marathon training FMC...managed a slow but delighra to get past finish line 5hours plus in 2004 whilst 10 days preggers. The Dublin supporters on the way are excellent and just will you to go go'll have no problems, sounds like your training is going sooo well. Enjoy.

10:19 p.m.  
Blogger Annie Rhiannon said...

Oh, I think I might like "Professional Window" too. Is that the one that sounds like she's saying "honey bring it close to my lips ah"? If so, then I like it.


10:57 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

I only know the dance version to that song. I spent many a night back in the day swinging off a podium screaming 'It's gotta be big!'
The shame of it.
Catherine O, Ta very much and well done yourself. I will do my utmost not to collapse/vomit/ call into strangers homes looking for tea and scones, along the way.

11:03 p.m.  
Anonymous Catherine O said...

Yeah thats the one Annie. Its totally different to the other ones and sounds a bit smutty..maybe thats why I like it..;-)

11:03 p.m.  
Anonymous Catherine O said...

Yeah we're all tarts "it's gotta be big " ;-)
Don't worry about the vomiting/'ll have no bother..the auld wans around Crumlin are stars.. out cheering you along barely able to stand themselves with their sweets/buns..class.. jaysus, nearly making me wanting to start training again..scary!!

11:10 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...


11:13 p.m.  
Blogger Manuel said...

I do like her first album. I was listening to it a lot during the period when I was trying to fiddle with this bird who was quite the feminist. Wonder why we never got it on. Cornfalke girl? Always prefered a fry up love.

12:49 a.m.  
Anonymous Penelope_CA said...

Swimming against the tide here as the lone Tori Amos fan willing to stick my head up above the wall.

I've been a fan since the first album and have seen her in concert countles times. IMO her last couple of CDs weren't as strong as her ealier stuff so I can understand how they wouldn't appeal to all but her die-hard fans but had at least a few good songs on them.

The latest release is her most solid effort since her "Pele" and "Choirgirl" days. I predict "Big Wheel" & "Bouncing Off Clouds" will do well on the radio. Personally I love "Code Red" and "Beauty of Speed".

Oddly enough, whilst "Cornflake Girl" was one of her most commercial hits it is my least favourite song and was overplayed to death!!!

4:57 a.m.  
Anonymous Penelope_CA said...

oh BTW as much as I love Tori Amos's music I don't love all her songs... "Programmable Soda" could have been left off the new CD!!!

5:04 a.m.  
Blogger PI said...

I'm not familiar with her. Do I get a 'yes'?

7:31 a.m.  
Blogger Conan Drumm said...

Now Missus, you can have yer Tori Amos (didn't she live and record in Ireland for a while?) and Sass is sooooo right about the scarey Cher thing, but unhand Ms Bjork who is the genuine article.

11:31 a.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

She's nuttier than a walnut whipp.

11:45 a.m.  
Blogger Conan Drumm said...

Mmmm, most excellent walnut whip! I want walnut whip right now...

1:24 p.m.  
Blogger Fat Sparrow said...

Now, now, her first album was wonderful (which is why I still listen to it) but you are right in saying that everything that came after that was just repeating itself.

3:24 a.m.  
Anonymous former fan said...

I used to really like Tori Amos. I still listen to some of her stuff. The less anguished CDs are better than the other ones.

Here are my problems with her: she is extremely derivative, with melodies and ideas that are not original except for her ability to express pain, anger, aggression, and "deadness" in music.

Now she's expressing a lot less torment and I like her stuff better. I still think that she's very derivative though. her new CD, American Doll Posse, is an obvious rip-off of old rock songs. for example, her song "girl disappearing" has the same melody as "famous blue raincoat," which she has performed. her song "dragon" is very similar to some of Joni Mitchell's experimental stuff. etc. etc. etc.

I personally think that without the appeal to rape and other trauma survivors, she would not have gotten famous because besides expressing anger and anguish, she doesn't have much to say.

this was my experience. I was abused myself and got into a cycle of listening to her a lot until I started to, well I hate the phrase "move on," but try to push through things.

I'm not saying her only good music is when she's agonized. just that she was really (imo) angry and creepy for a long time, and now she's lost that, which is great. but she's so derivative there are not many ideas left, unless you can ignore her similarity to (imo again) other better melodies.

I don't think I'll ever say I hate her, and I'll keep listening to some songs on and off, but I'm glad to have the agony behind me.

What I don't like about Tori is I think there is truth to the criticism that she was exploiting her pain. While I believe she is telling the truth about rape/miscarriage, etc., I also think that as she says herself, she has always liked to shock people.

so given the choice between a more thoughtful way of dealing with rape, vs. expressing agony and anguish over and over in a really creepy way, she went for the shock value every time, it seemed to me.

I'm not saying that she used it as a "photo opportunity," but that she chose to be outrageous in a way that made me feel some of her expressions of pain, creepiness, and anger were not genuine.

3:54 p.m.  
Anonymous Former Fan said...

and I agree that her first (real) album was really good. but I think you all are right about it being the same stuff over and over after that.

except starting with boys for pele, she really ramped up the creepiness factor, in my opinion. that CD, Choirgirl, and Strange Little Girls are just....well, more of her showing how "out there" she can be.

3:58 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and now she's gone off the deep end.

her "music" and "singing" is so bad that she's gotta use a knife and gun as props, which is supposed to be "healing." complete and total b.s. and before you tell me I don't know what I'm talking about, as an almost-teenager I was physically and sexually assaulted by a group of boys with knives and guns, and then there was that memorable moment when one of them tried to burn down the house...

I'm not kidding. the only reason she pulls this sensationalist shit is b/c she doesn't have talent anymore. her obsessive fans are saying that if you don't like the knife and gun thing (the knife, she rubbed all over herself, erotically. ewwwww.) that she did in the concert on 11/6/07, then you've never experienced violence or some shit like that. bullshit.

I think it's the other way around for sane people, who unlike Tori, having gone through something like this, they have a really healthy respect for weapons.

she's a no-talent loser and her career is crashing and burning. next thing you know, she'll be doing radio shows with Howard Stern.

10:04 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my god what am i doing here?? how many stupid ignorant comments starting from this fatmammycat....tori is not popular that's why you don't like her!!! but an amazing singer composer piano player and business woman. she has achieved many many many things ex. founding rainn ( rape abuse incest national network) which has helped a lot!

her albums are all different i don't see she repeats anything instead she surprises every time! her last gig was amazing!

1:15 a.m.  
Anonymous lissfort said...

Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance.
Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force.
Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed. T. amos.

1:31 a.m.  
Anonymous lissfort said...

"Beck's bass player (Justin Meldal-Johnsen) suggested I do a cover of Slayer's 'Raining Blood," she says applying strawberry lib balm with her pinkie. "I was reading about what was going on in Afghanistan--the way women were being oppressed, the destruction of religious statues. And when i heard that song, i just imagined a huge juicy vagina coming out of the sky, raining blood over all those racist, misogynist fuckers.

tori amos

1:33 a.m.  
Blogger John said...

Well obviously everyone has different matter how much people swear Neil Young is amazing I just don't get him. With all that said, Tori is my absolute favorite artist - her piano playing has a lot to do with it - I'm a pianist (a very good one too) and I am in awe of what she can play and even sing while doing it. Her voice is angelic and her lyrics are poetic (admittedly I rarely know exactly what she's singing about - rather I get a feeling and for that I connect on an emotional level). I like how she's rebellious and devious... on the surface she appears to be another lilith fair reject but she's quite punk rock underneath her composed veneer.

11:56 p.m.  
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