Thursday, September 25, 2008

Purity Rings.

Dear Europe,
not everything born in America ought to be imported lock stock and barrel. Creationism, stetsons, Paris Hilton, purity rings and obsessive interest in young girls' hymens are just some of those things that ought to be avoided. Equating self worth with virginity is beyond fucking stupid.
Peanut butter, The wire, The shield, Fringe, good stuff.
Religious Mumbo Jumbo and queer notions of possession= not good stuff.

Fatmammycat, unwilling citizen and grouch.



Blogger JL Pagano said...

Fringe? Really? Worth a watch? Or are you talking about a hairstyle? ;-)

10:32 a.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Worth a watch I believe, certainly I'm looking forward to it.

10:45 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those fathers sound like perverts to me, it is male dominated bollox. And the mothers they are worse letting that happen. Would it not be better for parents to educate their children, instil morals and respect for themselves in both boys and girls so that they can make informed decisions about what is right for them. Surely that would stand to them more though out their lives. It seems lazy parenting, they are looking for a quick solution as opposed to investing time and effort to help them take car of themselves.

On another note, what is the crack with America retreating to the most ridiculous churchs and cults for salvation? It’s like church is in fashion again.


11:13 a.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Yep, I think an overwhelming interest in your daughter's sexual activities is down right weird.
America is an alarmingly theocratic country. And becoming more so. Apparently one in six women between the ages of 12 and 21 are opting for these 'purity rings' and 'saving' themselves for marriage, or at least telling folk that's the plan. Seems odd to me to announce your sexual state. Girls who do sleep with boys don't wear, 'had sex rings' rings.
Even the name chaps my arse. 'Purity' suggesting what? What the fuck is impure about having sex?

11:47 a.m.  
Blogger morgor said...

ha, was reading some paper recently (it was mostly crap), but they had a good article about how in the late 1800's or early 1900's some US president rebuffed someone for trying to claim that creationism was a viable alternative to evolution.

Looks like the US is slipping backwards . . .

11:50 a.m.  
Blogger Andraste said...

Sadly, the US definitely IS going backwards. I think 9/11 sparked an "us vs. them" mentality with regard to religion, plus a more dangerous interest in this "end of days" bullshit. I'm very afraid - our fucking 'president' has a cabinet FULL of graduates of Falwell's "university" where they got an "education" that tells them the earth is 10,000 years old and that the fossil record is a trick from god to test their faith. As a result, they're beaming at the possibility that jesus is going to come and save them, so they're actually looking forward to, and working towards, starting the fucking apocalypse.

I'm surrounded by morons. Help.

Actually, there is a small hope. All this mumbo jumbo IS making a lot of secularists, atheists, and agnostics more vocal. But it's tough to shout the wingnuts down.

12:15 p.m.  
Anonymous sheepworrier said...

"Girls attend the balls with their fathers to ask for help in achieving their aim of remaining pure and virginal until their wedding day, when they will wed the man their father has helped choose for them"

What. The. F**k.

12:17 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn’t be going around encouraging my teenagers to engage in rampant orgies now or anything but I definitely wouldn’t want them to think sex is a bad thing. On the contrary it is one of lives most delightful pleasures. Make your kids aware of the dangerous and assure them they should only do what they genuinely want to do. I think even today people have a tendency to put sex on a pedestal and as a direct result it becomes more of a chore than a source of enjoyment for women in particular.

Andraste, America is a cool place I love it (I just hate working there) I think there are just a few mentalers ruining it for everybody. Rather than take responsibilities for the havoc their sprog may create the put them in the hands of “God”. Fark off.


12:54 p.m.  
Anonymous eva said...

You're right on the money on this one, as usual, FMC.
I've been reading your blog every day - as always! - sorry the non-comments (you're probably happy about that haha), but some tough shit came in between.
Today I'm at home CRYING - what the fuck is that all about??? Love f*cking sucks sometimes!! You'll have to tell me your "paramour story" one day... How you met etc.

Anyway - the running thing - F*CK, I hope that will never be you!
As for The Shield - are we talking about the TV series??? I promoted the first two series as part of my job, and I'm sold....

1:04 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eva, are you crying over a man? I hope not! Come on now me auld mucker, skippedy hop up there get your glad rags on and go for a pint or a walk or a museum or something. You don’t want the chap thinking you are sitting at home crying over him. Onwards and upwards.


1:15 p.m.  
Anonymous eva said...

Yes Nonny I'm crying over a man and it never happened to me this way before!
It's not his fault and he loves me - and I love him!! - but he's in a f*cking different country and there are a million reasons and problems in between us for not being together at the moment - and for the first time ever in my life it has driven me to drink during the day!
Well today that is. The first day.
I did not want breakfast today. I thought, f*ck it, I want a drink.
So I had one.

1:29 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why can't one of you move?


2:03 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

What's really frightening is when people just say 'Well EVILution is just wroong.' And don't offer up even a scintilla of evidence why they might think that. It's so blinkered and hogwashy.

Eva honey, I'm so very sorry to hear your heart is breaking. Long distance is so bloomin' difficult, but maybe in the future it will be doable. Gamma used to say 'what's meant for you won't pass you by.' I hope this is true for you.

2:04 p.m.  
Anonymous eva said...

Nonny, and FMC, what stands between us right now is: cancer, diabetes, a wife, a child, a few countries, 14 years and - last week - fucking chicken pox.
Complicated shit.
He is my soulmate.
If you pardon my french.

2:16 p.m.  
Anonymous sheepworrier said...

Sorry to hear that eva - tried to make a long-distance relationship work before but to no avail, despite both of us being madly in love.

Such a cliche, but time is a great healer, even if it doesn't feel like it now.

2:18 p.m.  
Anonymous eva said...

I must add though - one more thing.

I never loved anybody like I love this man.


2:20 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Jesus Eva that's a hell of a crop of complicated things. I've never really had to cop with a long distance relationship, I can't really imagine what you're going through, but I hope it eases a little over the next while.

2:24 p.m.  
Anonymous eva said...

Thanks FMC, and sheepworrier :)

I've had long distance relationships before, but nothing like this.

Hell, it's 2.30 pm in the afternoon in Scotland... and I need more booze! I've been drinking since I woke up! NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE!!!

I hope to one day tell you that it all worked out, but until that.... I will keep drinking, and you might get some weird comments on your site, FMC hahahaha

2:37 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Cyber door's always open.

2:40 p.m.  
Blogger Medbh said...

Poor Eva! I suggest drinking heavily to drown your sorrows.

What was that study done not long ago showing that girls had sex within a year after putting on a purity ring? It said something like that.

2:58 p.m.  
Blogger Andraste said...

I sympathize, Eva.

Best thing to do, since you're already drinking - have a good wallow. Dig out some of your most embarrassing old albums (CD's, cassettes, 8tracks, what have you - I have no idea how old you are so take your pick) and have a grand old day of wailing away with your old favorites. Then, pop a cool old romantic flick into the DVD/VCR/Tivo, and wallow, wallow, wallow.

Then take a B12, a lot of aspririn, drink a ton of water and go to bed.

Tomorrow things will look better. Or if they don't - repeat the process until the day comes when they do.

3:04 p.m.  
Anonymous Penelope_CA said...

I agree with what Andraste said.... 100%!

Better to educate one's children about the realities of sex instead of feeding them this idealistic, and somewhat creepy, fluff.

How in the world religious conservatives mixed up education of the facts with permission to act is beyond me. But I do know this... by making sex SUCH a taboo topic they invariably make it more exotic and appealing to curious teens.

3:06 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

But try to avoid gin! No gin!

This whole purity thing is a load of wet fanny farts. No parent wants their child to have sex- ever. But teenagers are hormone riddled mini-people and as such ought to be told, shown, cajoled, and threatened into being careful and responsible where humanely possible. Education and being able to speak to parents on ALL issues is far superior to pretending to be something your daddy hope you are.

3:16 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The eldest, Lauren, got married last year at 22 to the first man she'd dated. She was not his first girlfriend but they didn't kiss or hold hands until their wedding day. She had only known him for 8 weeks before their engagement which lasted six months and for five of those months he was away with the military.

WTF? Isn't that a pretty good sign that maybe this approach doesn't lead to healthy, well-rounded, women who know their worth is not dictated by their hymen?


3:48 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Indeed Liz, and there was one section where the father walked his daughter up the aisle and proceeded to hand her purity ring to the future husband, bit like I might hand over one of the cat's vaccination papers to a prospective buyer. Bleaugh to the power of infinity.
Seriously, raise fucking women, not empty vessels. It's obnoxious to place such value on whether or not your daughter has had sex or not. Vile.

3:52 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Of course they say it's about love, love and respect, but it's not. It's about control, control and ownership.

3:55 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of doing things out of love, why not love yourself with some laughing yoga.
Thought you would enjoy this one, Miss Fat Cat.


3:59 p.m.  
Anonymous stipes said...

where are all the male offspring. Are they attending these Purity knees up thingys hoping to get lucky with a virgin or two.
Or maybe for their 16th birthday, Daddy gets them a "special" present

4:00 p.m.  
Blogger morgor said...

where are all the male offspring.

probably out having sex with male prostitutes before killing them.

4:14 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats so wrong with purity rings and young people having respect for their bodies and themselves, unlike you shower od STD riddled, morally bankrupt idiots.

And Eva cop the fuck on to yourself, you've probably never ecven met the guy...another cyber romance....freAAAAAAAky

4:16 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That’s awful Eva. I am off to NY soon without himself, it should be five months but I am gonna try get the work done in two and here’s me moaning I will most likely be back within days! I guess nothing is certain, you could have a blissfully happy relationship one minute but the shit could easily hit the fan the next, you just don’t know. I am sure there are lots of good aspects of your relationship for you to concentrate on, the real love you seem to have is an enormous plus for a start. Get pissed today if you want but take care of yourself, try get yourself out and about, don’t let it consume you, you know.

I really and truly hope your wishes are granted, there is no pain like heartache.

Peace out peeps - to the vet to be fleeced.


4:21 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"a load of wet fanny farts"

Heh heh he, I love it you mentaler.


4:28 p.m.  
Anonymous problemchildbride said...

This whole purity idiocy is to ensure saleability of goods from old men to young men who have been taught a virgin is their due. Meanwhile these young lads been out "sewing their wild oats" with the "bad girls," you know, the ones they would never actually marry. That's OK though becasue boys will be boys, titter fucking tee hee.

It's disgusting from top to bottom, makes a fetish out of a membrane and sets the rot right into another generation.

4:30 p.m.  
Anonymous problemchildbride said...

Sorry to hear of your troubles, Eva. I hope things sort themselves out. Be strong, lassie - which doesn't mean don't have a jolly good cry if you need one - but don't let in interfere with the other parts of your life.

You sound like you're hurting a lot. Best to you, toots.

4:34 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

Right Morgor and Stipes, wither the dudes?

It DOES fetishise it really, Sam, quite right. The Golden Quim, the lucious lips of labial loveliness. The Holy Hymen. Amen to the Hymen.
Poppycock. Oops, I should never have let a cock near it, not even in Poppyish jest.

4:42 p.m.  
Blogger jothemama said...

I find it evilly creepy too. That's so not what a father is for. So not.

I want my children to have a high high self esteem and emotional quotient4 that will protect them from unprotected sex and therefore stds, and unsuitable sex. So that they choose good people to have sex with, and know how to enjoy themselves safely and with finesse, and not ever feel like they need to do anything they dont want, or have sex before it's right for them. And there's going to be a big family box of condoms in the bathroom as soon as the need is there.

And theres going to be nothing that they cant tell me or ask me about.

6:39 p.m.  
Anonymous eva said...

Thanks guys.
I'll be alright, I'm all cried out for today and wine is my saviour, hurrah.
Now, on the topic of purity rings..... hahahahahahahahhahahha

8:41 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

wine is good, chocolate too I hear.

9:44 p.m.  
Blogger fatmammycat said...

And quite right Jo, kids SHOULD be able to come to a parent about anything.

9:58 p.m.  
Blogger lorrainbow said...

That's gut wrenchingly scary- the bit where they parade up under the swords and kneel at the cross was like something out of A Handmaids Tale. Is there similiar for boys and their mothers? Or is it just Girls who need to creepily pledge their hymen to daddy until marriage. (although- spose not having a hymen might make it a bit weird) Does daddy get the stained bed sheets from their wedding night as a reward?

Horrible, horrible patriarchal weirdness

2:53 p.m.  

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