Hair today, gone tomorrow...
Sometimes I get so ping- ping-pinged by a story that it gives me a headache and I find only a quick 'arrgghhh!' gets my blood flowing again. When I heard this story yesterday my initial repsonse was, 'my god, ridiculous in this day and age, has he not more to worrying about?'
But then, this morning having read more, I'm all, 'hummm, he's bloody right! After all if he lets that slide, what's next, nose rings? Anarchy! That's what. Good for you sir."
I may even have sneered. Naturally this was all before I heard about Monstee's tongue, after I read that I haven't been able to construct a single useful thought.
What do y'all think of the following?
"The decision to refuse three students entry to a Junior Cert exam hall, because it was claimed their tight haircuts did not comply with school rules, has been condemned by youth organisations and parental bodies.
Following a decision by the principal of Tullamore Community College, Co Offaly, to refer three students to another school for the second day of exams yesterday, organisations such as Youth Work Ireland called on the Minister for Education to intervene and ensure that no student is denied the right to sit an exam.
A spokesman for Youth Work Ireland, Michael McLoughlin, who described the schools' decision as "ludicrous and possibly illegal", last night said that if the Department of Education failed to take the issue seriously, a complaint to the Ombudsman for Children might now arise.
This is what I thought was terrible but then...
The parents of the three boys - Enda Carroll (15), Seán Treacy (16) and Andrew Kelly (15) - accused the Tullamore school of employing "one rule for one, another rule for others". Ann-Marie Treacy and Pamela Carroll acknowledged their sons had been warned and suspended about the length of their hair in the past, adding however that their sons simply preferred a tight haircut.
Principal Edward McEvoy said the three students had not been singled out for particular attention and explained that the school employed high standards of discipline and behaviour and could not accept "wilful challenging of the school rules".
Mr McEvoy arranged for them to sit the remaining exams six miles away at Árd Scoil Chiaráin Naofa, Clara. Two students availed of this option while Enda plans instead to resit the exams next year in another school."
Bada Boom! So, even though they had been warned before they carried on regardless and are now bleating over their punishment. The sentence 'Their sons simply preferred a tight haircut' is the real clincher.
When I was in school I had to wear a really terrible uniform, I mean it was awful...and I'm fairly certain I would have simply preferred to wear jeans and a t-shirt. But I didn't because the school had a bloody rule about it, the filthy beasts. Had I turned up in jeans they would have sent me home. Ergo, I wore the uniform.
Rules are rules, sometimes rules are made to be broken, but if you do then you've gotta roll with the following punches.
What message are these parents sending to their kids? Do what you like son and then when you get punished for it, go to the papers and complain about being singled out. Don't accept any responsibility what ever you do, it's not your fault that you were suspended for breaking the rules, it's the school for not letting you do what you like.
Another bunch of kids with in built victim mentality. Yeah, way to go Mom and Dad. Woooo, you sure showed them boys how to be men. Can't wait for, 'they simply preferred drinking and driving', or 'they simply preferred shooting heroin,' 'they simply preferred robbing banks.'
Dopes.
But then, this morning having read more, I'm all, 'hummm, he's bloody right! After all if he lets that slide, what's next, nose rings? Anarchy! That's what. Good for you sir."
I may even have sneered. Naturally this was all before I heard about Monstee's tongue, after I read that I haven't been able to construct a single useful thought.
What do y'all think of the following?
"The decision to refuse three students entry to a Junior Cert exam hall, because it was claimed their tight haircuts did not comply with school rules, has been condemned by youth organisations and parental bodies.
Following a decision by the principal of Tullamore Community College, Co Offaly, to refer three students to another school for the second day of exams yesterday, organisations such as Youth Work Ireland called on the Minister for Education to intervene and ensure that no student is denied the right to sit an exam.
A spokesman for Youth Work Ireland, Michael McLoughlin, who described the schools' decision as "ludicrous and possibly illegal", last night said that if the Department of Education failed to take the issue seriously, a complaint to the Ombudsman for Children might now arise.
This is what I thought was terrible but then...
The parents of the three boys - Enda Carroll (15), Seán Treacy (16) and Andrew Kelly (15) - accused the Tullamore school of employing "one rule for one, another rule for others". Ann-Marie Treacy and Pamela Carroll acknowledged their sons had been warned and suspended about the length of their hair in the past, adding however that their sons simply preferred a tight haircut.
Principal Edward McEvoy said the three students had not been singled out for particular attention and explained that the school employed high standards of discipline and behaviour and could not accept "wilful challenging of the school rules".
Mr McEvoy arranged for them to sit the remaining exams six miles away at Árd Scoil Chiaráin Naofa, Clara. Two students availed of this option while Enda plans instead to resit the exams next year in another school."
Bada Boom! So, even though they had been warned before they carried on regardless and are now bleating over their punishment. The sentence 'Their sons simply preferred a tight haircut' is the real clincher.
When I was in school I had to wear a really terrible uniform, I mean it was awful...and I'm fairly certain I would have simply preferred to wear jeans and a t-shirt. But I didn't because the school had a bloody rule about it, the filthy beasts. Had I turned up in jeans they would have sent me home. Ergo, I wore the uniform.
Rules are rules, sometimes rules are made to be broken, but if you do then you've gotta roll with the following punches.
What message are these parents sending to their kids? Do what you like son and then when you get punished for it, go to the papers and complain about being singled out. Don't accept any responsibility what ever you do, it's not your fault that you were suspended for breaking the rules, it's the school for not letting you do what you like.
Another bunch of kids with in built victim mentality. Yeah, way to go Mom and Dad. Woooo, you sure showed them boys how to be men. Can't wait for, 'they simply preferred drinking and driving', or 'they simply preferred shooting heroin,' 'they simply preferred robbing banks.'
Dopes.
posted by fatmammycat at 9:12 a.m.
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As every you're right, FMC, they should be killed.
And one of them said he was 'too upset' to go to the other exam hall.
Fuck's sake. Too upset, my hole. A lazy little blackguard is all he is.
And obviously that should be 'as ever'.
You know, I always worry a little bit when I see you agreeing with me. But skinhead schoolboys, I'm against it!
Hi Fatmmamycat
Love your blog and read it regularily.
But I have to disagree with your post. Or maybe its that I think it takes focus away from the real problem.
Yeah I think the reaction from the parents is suspect.
But... I think a principal who disrupts a students exams to prove that his rules cannot be broken UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES shows that education is not his primary focus; that ruling the school is.
Fair enough they brought it upon themselves (probably deliberately) but he should have risen above it, let them sit the exams without fuss, and dealt with it in the future in some way. (This is the junior cert so presumably they intended to come back next year.)
I got an earring (to piss my parents off - it didn't, they liked it, damn) but boy did my principal OVER react. It was the first day of the leaving cert, he shouted at me in front of all the other students about 15 mins before the first exam. And you can be sure that was all that was going through my head for the first hour of that exam.
You might say well that I asked for it.
But I say that I think it is up to the teacher in this instance to judge the kid has broken the rules, probably needs to be punished, but whats important right now is the exam. The punishment can wait until afterwards.
Cheers
Peter
It's only the Junior Cert though, Peter.
Not worth a shite at the end of the day and certainly not worth the coverage it's gotten regardless of the rights and wrongs of the situation.
It boils down to the inability of anyone in this country to take any responsibility for their own actions. They have the rules spelled out to them in black and white and when they break them the first thing they do is blame somebody, anybody, else but themselves.
Hopefully it'll teach the wee cunts a lesson but I doubt it.
That's why I ping-pinged.
I don't think you're wrong about the exam disruption Peter, perhaps the Principal should have let the boys sit, certainly a lot of people think so. But the boys took a calculated risk by cutting their hair in a style that got them suspended before, so on this occasion I think the cause of the problem lies at their feet.
It's the logic of the parents I question most, if your child has been suspended before for wearing a short haircut/wearing an earring/ wearing excessive makeup, surely the best thing to do would be to ensure that your kids did none of these things, at least while they attend school?
And I meant to say welcome Peter.
I'm inclined to agree with Peter on this one.
Blackguards they may be but I think they got their hairs cut with a specific purpose in mind. They obviously didn't want to do the exams in the first place. Cutting their hair made it inevitable for them that they wouldn't be allowed sit the papers.
The school then gave them exactly what they wanted, the gift of two weeks off rather than the punishment of making the whelps sit down and write the papers they obviously had shag all prepared for.
I don't really give a shit about the parents. Those kids are old enough to engineer their own demise.
Age shall not wither you nor the years dull your infinite variety or whatever the Hell it is.
Fatmammycat! Such reaction! Surely you're getting older. And has a post EVER elicited such commenting from oul Crusty Balls hisself before? I counted four.
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Snogging.
Haven't had a dose of that since that party at Chrismas. (1993).
Please advise any unexplained aches and pains he suffers. If it doesn't work, I'm taking the bastard back.
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The kids took a calculated risk - they obviously thought the head wouldn't have the bottle to kick them out - he had to be seen to be consistent, otherwise all the other little sods would follow suit! I know we wore out our softest teacher breaking the rules, the more she let us get away with, the further we pushed the boundaries. I cringe with shame remembering that poor kind, frazzled woman.
Wait...they were not allowed to sit the exam because their hair was TOO SHORT??? What the fuck is that about? Used to be a requirement to have very, very short, tight hair, and kids were punished or reprimanded for LONG hair.
The assumption used to be:
Short hair = clean cut kid
Long hair = dirty fucking hippie
Is it really the hair, or are they little racist bastard skinheads?
Exactly Shebah, that's what I said earlier/also did in school.My poor old Geography teacher had a nervous break down beause he couldn't handle pupils, it he had ever followed through with ay of his threat we horrible children might have been more wary.
Andraste the hair looks like marine issue cut-a buzz cut, if you will and not allowed in this particular school. The kids knew this-having been suspended for the very same reason before.
Sorry, the world cup has started, Germany are 2 - 1 up against Costa Rica, so replies might be a touch sporadic.
I get fed up with everyone blaming the bloody parents! Until you've had to try and control a 15 year old in your house who is determined not to be cooperative then you cannot be the first to throw stones.
Yes, as a parent you can sometimes have some influence, but if they are absolutely determined then there's bugger all you can do
I don't blame parent in every case, but I do in this case because I've been watching them all bloody week on TV making excuse after excuse. And saying things like, 'they prefer to wear their hair short.'and 'it's not their fault' Instead of saying, 'why yes, the school did object before about the shaved hair, but we thought they wouldn't notice/mind this week.' They knew, they condoned and now they're mad because the school followed through with their threat to suspend the boys.
Waitaminute Kim Ayres!
YOU said;
" I'd advise any kid that they will learn far more by bucking the system at any and every opportunity."
and now, having done so, you abrogate* your responsibilities by saying, "well they're 15 what can you do?"
Personally, I almost agree with you, it's a haircut for Christ's sake! But surely there is a duty to fill the voids with something.
All children get it better than their parents, but when this slips to indulgence it means that you are depriving those same children of any sense of acheivement which is vital for personal development and self confidence. You end up with grumpy little nihilists with no sense of worth.
* is this a word?
Well I very nearly did write a comment about good on them for bucking the system. They'll learn far more from that than any silly exam they might sit. However, that only really applies if they're prepared to accept the consequences of their actions.
If they said "I'm having my hair however I want it, and if you're going to be so anal as to stop me sitting my exam then f*** you!" then they'd have my respect. But they can't whinge about it not being fair if they knew there was a damn good chance of it happening.
It is a word Docky. A fine word.
And that's exactly what they're doing KIm- wah wah, not fair, you sent us home even though you told us you would- And then they're off to the papers to sell their story.
Although I do feel the headmaster handled it poorly, it was after all their first major exam... But then what was he to do, they forced his hand.
LIke I say a ping-ping story.
The parents should be sent to the salt mines and the little ne'er-do-wells themselves beaten mercilessly.
I'm pleased to advance the debate thus.
I agree with the foot eater. A sound thrashing is what they need.
You've ruined his excellent fucklestop!
His what?
That was me.
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